the Hanley spur. Aerial photo (below) from Queen's University Archives shows: 1-CP line to industries north of Outer Station - this line originally crossed the GT(CN) west of the station yard via a diamond, before being relocated to an overpass near Division Street, 2-Gould Battery and Frontenac Floor & Wall Tile Co., 3-engine house, 4-Outer Station, 5-stock pens, 6-Montreal Street underpass below Kingston Sub, 7-Hanley Spur.
A 1951 Vintage Kingston view of two CNR passenger trains meeting at the west end of the station trackage, looking toward Elliott Avenue. Interestingly, Mike Hamer posted a series of Kingston Outer Station photos in 2013 including this one. These photos had been left to Mike by his father in a booklet.
Deemed the Outer Station, at present-day 810 Montreal Street, the one-and-a-half-storey stone GTR 7-bay Type A station had a gambrel roof with five gabled dormers on a curved attic extension of eaves to shelter passengers on the platform. Curved brackets led from the first storey to the buried roof dormers. Round-arched windows were reminiscent of the solidity displayed by Roman - Neo-Classical style of architecture used for public works, installing an air of permanence and confidence, even of Empire! Its Italianate proportions are attributed to Sir Francis Thompson, GTR’s Montreal architect.
A second, brick building was added in 1895-1898, sitting 100 feet east of the first, echoing its design features with seven arches and similar supporting brackets. The brick has been heavily-painted, with a low, single-storey wooden structure added between the two.
The earlier limestone building hosted offices and waiting room until at least 1892. The second building housed a lunch room. In 1939, the earlier building was converted to the baggage and express room and station functions moved over to the second building. Renovations in 1970 included extending ticket sales counters when sales staff relocated from the Princess Street ticket office. This Canadian Science & Technology Museum photo CN001091 shows both main tracks, with cars in the yard at left in 1974:
The obviously dangerous curve, with a 30 mph speed restriction, caused at least one train to leave the rails (CNR 5702 in 1947), before CN successfully realigned its main line through a deep limestone cut north of Elliott Avenue between Division Street and Montreal Street, in October 1974. Some accounts say the realignment opened July 24, 1975. A westbound freight behind 3625-3108, including penultimate Penn Central covered hopper PC 888173 and caboose 79471 rode the welded rail and concrete ties on February 21, 1976, photographed from Montreal Street:
I've photographed some interesting Kingston platform scenes at this 'new' station over the years. Opening day, CSTM photo CN005133:
On June 27, 1973 RMC cadets and Kingston's Canadian Forces Vimy Band await the arrival of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, arriving to celebrate Kingston's Tercentenary (L.C. Gagnon photos, below). In 1984, the Royal Train arrived at the new station.
This interesting photo, from the archives of the City of Montreal, shows a train of VIP's arriving from Montreal at the Outer Station. Met by City of Kingston Police patrol cars, the visitors will take part in preliminary planning for the 1976 Summer Olympics sailing events that were based at the Portsmouth Olympic Harbour:
Another rear view of the station taken in 1972, with a CN AMC Hornet in the foreground, and CN passenger train stopped at the station, from Vintage Kingston Facebook:
In March, 1974 this online auction site photo shows an eastbound CN passenger train making its station stop. Note the DuPont maroon-coloured covered hoppers at right:
CN 810454 is a former stock car in MOW gang service. Coupled to a rebuilt boxcar purpose-built to carry flammables, the slats provide ventilation in this previous iteration. This online auction site photo is captioned 1983. The cars are a few tracks over from the occupied boarding cars. The Outer Station is visible in the background:
Phil Mason kindly shared a photo of the Outer Station taken in 1972:
Though I vaguely recall some visits to the Outer Station to meet CN passenger trains, I mainly remember it being a stub-ended yard, with the westward yard lead joining the main on the south track of the Kingston Sub immediately east of Division Street. An eastward view of the yard in 1978 reveals a local switcher with a CP boxcar (CSTM Collection MAT006979)
The yard also held the late evening passenger equipment overnight for the morning run to Toronto, as seen in these photos taken by Doug Rickaby at 0545 on a summer morning in July 1985:
The yard also provided a maintenance base for vehicles and rail equipment, including CN crane 50367, its idler cars, and covered hoppers for Northern Telecom, in January 1980.
This Tim Reid photo is undated, but I'm willing to bet it was taken at the same time as mine. I'm also willing to bet that Tim marched all the way up to the head-end to get it:
A restaurant operated in the Outer Station between 1989 and 1992, as CN sought to retain the 1.3-acre site, and its three buildings occupied. The remaining yard track and connection to the mainline were last used for a rail safety display in June, 1995. CN Mobile hazmat response trucks, boom truck, snowplow and caboose are on display.
Now the station is a political football, uncared for by CN, its roof removed and walls stabilized by order of the city. A far cry from its heyday, including an 1872 campaign visit by Sir John A Macdonald, including an elegant oyster supper! In the second Outer Station post, we'll see what happens when you decide to kick a caboose. Hard.
I just finished listening to Regis Philbin's How I Got This Way. An engrossing tale of Regis' showbiz life, including his self-doubt, successes and stories of stars like Bing Crosby, his famous female cohosts, and the inimitable Don Rickles. Don: "Go ahead Frank [Sinatra], make yourself at home. Hit somebody!" The book made me talk like Regis for awhile. IS THIS GUY NUTS OR WHAT? I MEAN, REALLY!
And the Oscar goes to...Will Ferrell and Zach Whatsisnamakis for this hilarious bit of cymbalism from the 2012 Awards.
Modelling Winnipeg? Here are some cool retro scenes from the 1950's to the 1970's. Watch for the towering Ogilvie Flour Mill at the 3:07 mark. Got BC Rail? Check out these amazing track geometry car scenes. Dave: thanks for the latter link!
Neat write-up (this, and part 2). It is interesting to see how use of the Outer Station property has evolved (devolved?) through the years. I particularly like the CTSM Collection photo of the switcher that really gives it a sort of hopeless end-of-the-line feel.
Two questions: what is the date for the aerial photo from the archives?
And, was the Outer Yard ever used for pickups/set-outs and did it have a local switch crew that worked the yard the local industries? (I guess the better way to phrase that question was, when did it STOP being used that way and everything was done out of Belleville?)
Yes, the yard does look a bit sparse in the 1980's view, but even looking at the steam-era aerial view, I don't think the yard was ever jam-packed with cars.
To answer your questions, the aerial photo is undated. George Lilley was a photographer for the Kingston Whig-Standard from the late 1940's to the early 1960's. There is a number 54/117 on the reverse of the photo; could it be 1954? I'll add another George Lilley photo the post, dated 1948.
Yes, the Outer Station yard was used for local work. There was always a local down to Kingston from Belleville and from Brockville throughout the 1970's/1980's as well. I don't have a hard-and-fast date, though the mid-80's might be the best answer I can give right now.
Thanks again for your comments. Watch for an upcoming post on Queens and the CP interchange there.
Hi - My name is Barry Davison and I lived on Bricelands Lane from 1941 to 1950. My best friend, at the time, was Pat Giffin, whose father, Ed, worked for the CNR. The Giffins moved to Toronto about 1948.
Elliot Ave. was known as Bricelands Lane at this time. My dad, Richard, also worked for the CNR during this time.
I remember the homes and names of many people from the area at that time.
Great to hear from you, Barry. If you haven't seen it, the 'At the Bend in the Road - Kingston' book would be of interest to you.
I bet this was almost 'out in the country' at that time!
Thanks very much for your comment,
Love these pictures Eric!! I worked at the tile plant during the 80's, and was the 3rd generation of our family to do so. My Grandparent's lived right across from the Outer Station on Montreal St. since the 1920's. My father grew up there, and shared stories of life during the depression watching cars full of men going both east and west looking for work. The Outer Station played a big part in our lives. Thanks for keeping the memories alive.
I trust you've seen this post:
which mentions Frontenac Tile. I'm always interested to learn more about these tracks north of the Outer Station!
Thanks for your comment,
Yes I saw that post! Very nice indeed! I also found a picture online of the track side of the plant, where they shipped tile, brought the clay in, and also the feldspar for grinding. I imagine it is from the 40's. Feel free to use it if you like.
We lived on cassidy . The property where Frontenac tiles was first owned by my grandmother . She had horses there. She sold that part of the property.
Awesome additional history, A. Definitely the outer limits of the city then!
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